{"id":1432,"date":"2026-07-05T11:02:04","date_gmt":"2026-07-05T11:02:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.dmy.info\/en\/?p=1432"},"modified":"2026-07-05T11:02:44","modified_gmt":"2026-07-05T11:02:44","slug":"a-philosophical-day-6-science-vs-philosophy-religion","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.dmy.info\/en\/a-philosophical-day-6-science-vs-philosophy-religion\/","title":{"rendered":"A Philosophical Day 6- Science vs philosophy-religion"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-wp-embed is-provider-dmy-philosophy wp-block-embed-dmy-philosophy\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"oNVVfnr7MP\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.dmy.info\/en\/a-philosophical-day-being-language\/\">A Philosophical Day 5- Being Language<\/a><\/blockquote><iframe class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201cA Philosophical Day 5- Being Language\u201d \u2014 DMY Philosophy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.dmy.info\/en\/a-philosophical-day-being-language\/embed\/#?secret=bopflndAwd#?secret=oNVVfnr7MP\" data-secret=\"oNVVfnr7MP\" width=\"600\" height=\"338\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Y:<\/strong> Is this really what we&#8217;re concerned with? Is our goal to sound intellectual?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>M:<\/strong> You&#8217;re misrepresenting it. If the description is flawed, analysis becomes impossible. Otherwise, all our effort is wasted. We need to describe the situation impartially. You can&#8217;t begin an analysis by dismissing what you can&#8217;t reach as worthless.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Y:<\/strong> Reach what? A pile of pretentious jargon?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>D:<\/strong> Let&#8217;s call it exaggeration rather than pretentious jargon. 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